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kota



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 4:01 am    Post subject: What about Austrian? Reply with quote

I want to learn Austrian if anybody can teach me. But if it's near German, then I might as well learn German.

I'm good in English. I can also write. I can teach you how if you can also teach me. You would have to do it by posting here, however. I'm busy doing research - in English.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Austrians don't really have a language of their own, most Austrians speak dialects of high German. You're better off just learning high German. I can give you a hand with your German though it would be much easier doing it through MSN or something.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, contingency,
What is high German?
By implication, is there such language as low German?
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 8:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah there is such a thing, Low German is a regional dialect. It's spoken by a lot in northern Germany near the Dutch border. It's more like Dutch than anything and isn't standardised. Whereas High German is the common German spoken throughout Germany and more or less Austria as well.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't mess up High German with Standard German.

The Austrian dialects belong to High German which is also spoken in the south of Germany. There is no Standard Austrian language per se and there are only minor changes in pronunciation and vocabulary when they speak Standard German. Every Austrian learns Standard German at school and it is the means of the media and bureaucracy. What is specific Austrian can be found in the vast amount of dialects. The best way to learn one of these dialects is to move to the region where it is spoken.


To learn more about German dialects and related languages, you should read here: http://www.ex.ac.uk/~pjoyce/dialects/diagen.html. Oftentimes, the so-called dialects are quite different, and the reason why they are called dialects lies in the language policy of Germany.

Note that the two Sorbian languages, although listed there, are no dialects of German but two indigenous, rather archaic Slavic languages.


Edit: added a comma


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kota



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for all your explanation.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your welcome! Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kota wrote:
By implication, is there such language as low German?


Low German contains the dialects of Low Saxon spoken in Germany, and it is definitely no dialect of German but a language on its own. The reason why it resembles Dutch that much is because Dutch developed out of Low Saxon - around the 15th or 16th century, if I'm not mistaken.

Low German in Low German is called "Plattdüütsch", whereas the Low Saxon in the Netherlands is called "Nedersaksisch". The Low Saxon dialects spoken in the USA are called Mennonite Low German, and "Plautdietsch" in Mennonite Low German.

By the way, Low Saxon is one of the ancestors of English.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where can I find conversational German? I mean common-day dialogue in German? Perhaps I can learn easily this way if the pronunciation of the words is not difficult.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.jump-gate.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=3879#3879

Have a look at this thread. Smile
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