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Pronoun y and en

 
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zmike



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PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2005 6:24 pm    Post subject: Pronoun y and en Reply with quote

What is the use of the y and en pronoun?
How and when do u use them?

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Julien



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PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2005 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always have the same problem with general questions.

y refers to a place
en refers to something

Exemples:
J'y vais Arrow I am leaving (in that case, y does not refer necessarily to a specific place)

Est-ce que tu vas à la bibliothèque?
J'y suis déjà allé ce matin Arrow y refers to la bibliothèque (=Je suis déjà allé à la bibliothèque ce matin)

Est-ce que tu en veux? Do you want some? (I have a bag of candies in my hand)
Qu'est-ce que tu en penses? What do you think of it?
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zmike



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PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2005 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does'nt the en pronoun have something to do with the prepositions de, d', l' etc...
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Julien



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PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2005 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

zmike wrote:
Does'nt the en pronoun have something to do with the prepositions de, d', l' etc...


I don't think so Confused
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zmike



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PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2005 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's in my text book but I don't trust it.
Here is what it says

Pour remplacer un mot precede par de, du, de la, de l' ou de, on ustilise en.
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MiniMe



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PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2005 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

zmike wrote:
It's in my text book but I don't trust it.
Here is what it says

Pour remplacer un mot precede par de, du, de la, de l' ou de, on ustilise en.


that can only be done in specific sentences. example : je veux faire le compte des prisonniers (i wanna make a count of the prisonners) ==> je veux en faire le compte. "en" replaces "des prisonniers". but it implies that the person ur talking to knows ur talking about prisonners, and which prisonners they are.

but u can't use "en" in this sentence : le gateau de ma mere.

now dont ask me why, that's julien's job Laughing jk
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Julien



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PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2005 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

zmike wrote:
It's in my text book but I don't trust it.
Here is what it says

Pour remplacer un mot precede par de, du, de la, de l' ou de, on ustilise en.


That must be true

Tu veux de la purée?
Non, je n'en veux pas.

Tu as entendu parler du nouveau film de Woody Allen?
Non, je n'en ai pas entendu parler.

Est-ce qu'il y a de la canelle dans ce gateau?
Oui, il y en a
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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2005 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aidez-moi, s'il vous plaît!!!

Mon père écoute les nouvelles à la radio.

Dans ce cas, je dit "Il en écoute" ou "Il les écoute" ou je peux utilizer les deux???
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Julien



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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2005 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Arrow Il les écoute
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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2005 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quelle est la règle pour faire la distinction entre les deux cas???
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