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Y and En

 
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 7:38 pm    Post subject: Y and En Reply with quote

What's the difference between en and y??? with prepositions??
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well the pronoun 'y' is like a substitute for there or anything beginning with the prep. ', au, la, aux'

the pronoun 'en' is means like some of it or of it or whatever and anything beginning with the prep 'de, or des, or de la' and numbers sometimes
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very interesting

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 2:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My explanation:

Obj Pronoun Y
The direct object pronoun y is a very versatile french word. For that reason, it can sometimes be very confusing, because it can be hard to link back to a noun to give it the right meaning. Y is used only when the object it represents is a THING. It can never be used to represent an actual person or even an animate object, for that matter. If you here the y pronoun being used in either spoken or written french, you know that it must refer to some inanimate object or place that has already been referred to in the conversation or passage. The appropriate english translation of y is usually "there" or "it", depending on the paticular context of the sentence. The object pronoun y is used to replace both the prep and a noun, much as in the way the indirect objects pronouns work for people. When the obj pronoun y represents a feminine noun, the past participle agrees if the verb is conjugated using avoir. The same thing is true when it is used to replace plural nouns.

Obj Pronoun En

When the prep de is used with an obj to indicate a thing, the obj pronoun en is used to replace the prep and the noun. En is never used in the place of people; only the disjunctive pronouns can be used if the object of the prep de is a person.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What if I were to use pronoun y, a reflexive pronoun, and pronoun leur in a negative sentence. Where do I place the pronouns.
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