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Usage of "de" with verbs

 
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Chromium



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 9:30 pm    Post subject: Usage of "de" with verbs Reply with quote

I've noticed that "de" sometimes precedes a verb in a sentence and that sometimes it doesn't, for example:

a) Ce livre est intéressant de lire.

b) Je veux lire ce livre.

Both of these sentences are gramatically correct and contain the same verb "to read", so I was wondering what is the purpose of "de" being present in the first sentence?

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Cocoye



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 8:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your example is unfortunately wrong :
Ce livre est intéressant à lire

However, in French, we use "de" before a verb when this "verb" is not used as a verb ( Confused I know it's not very clear)

Here an example :
J'ai l'habitude de lire le soir
Avoir is the verb, not lire.

Hoping I was clear,
Cocoye
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Nita



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I've noticed that "de" sometimes precedes a verb in a sentence and that sometimes it doesn't


I believe it's more "de" sometimes appears AFTER a word and somtimes it doesn't

"de" or no "de", you look at the verb BEFORE it, instead of the one after. Just like:

I talk to you.
I talk about you.
I talk with you.
I talk behind you.

It's the different kinds of TALK that requires a different preposition (to, about, with, behind), and not the different kinds of YOU.

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Jim



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 10:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Usage of "de" with verbs Reply with quote

Chromium wrote:
I've noticed that "de" sometimes precedes a verb in a sentence and that sometimes it doesn't, for example:

a) Ce livre est intéressant de lire.

I think it's called the dependent infinitive, and it's one of those things
you just have to learn.

It's equivalent to the "to" in the English infinitive "to do", "to speak".
etc. "de" or "à" can preceed the second verb (the one in the infinitive).

Occasionally neither de or à is used. You really need a list of these
dependencies, there is no rule. :o(

Some examples: de finir, d'oublier

C'est difficile de finir <quelque chose>
C'est trop facile d'oublier tes devoirs!

à dire, à porter

Il n'est pas facile à porter <quelque chose>

Stand alone: aimer, venir

Ce n'est pas conseillé venir avant le professeur.

b) Je veux lire ce livre.

Both of these sentences are gramatically correct and contain the same verb "to read", so I was wondering what is the purpose of "de" being present in the first sentence?

The pronomial vouloir (je veux) doesn't require a supporting 'de' or
'à'.

These are the difficulties of the use of the French infinitive. You really
need to study a grammar to learn the many different ways of using it.

Thank you. :)

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